Factions Vs. Nightfall - Guild Wars Forums

Ademist · Apr 08, 2007, 06:30 PM // 18:30

I'm sort of in a dillema where I cannot choose between Factions and Nightfall. I wanted to know your opinions on which I should buy. Of course I will be buying both eventually, I just need the most neccassary one for now. (I do have Prophecies.)

Post your opinions.

warpedheat101 · Apr 08, 2007, 06:31 PM // 18:31

what do you like more pvp or pve? nightfall is more pve while factions is more pvp...........i prefer nightfall but have been going back to factions a bit

Zinger314 · Apr 08, 2007, 06:31 PM // 18:31

Nightfall. That's nearly objective.

One reason; HEROES.

greendc27 · Apr 08, 2007, 06:32 PM // 18:32

Get Nightfall. People can argue about which is the better game (I prefer Nightfall) but its the only game you can get heroes from. They help a lot since some of the missions have hardly any people in them no matter which game you're playing.

lyra_song · Apr 08, 2007, 06:32 PM // 18:32

Nightfall.

Heroes make your life much more fun.

Brianna · Apr 08, 2007, 06:33 PM // 18:33

I'd have to say.. the most important one you'd want to buy is Nightfall since it has more features to take advantage of, IE: Heros, inscribable armors, and some pretty nice skills etc.. Factions does have nice armor and some pretty good skills, but I guess it's not all that important. Now if it was me who had to choose from one of them I'd pick factions, because i really despise nightfall.

MMSDome · Apr 08, 2007, 06:34 PM // 18:34

I prefer Factions because I think its a better all around game. Love the environment and everything about it ever since we got to do tha beta thing. Just love Factions but thats me. Most people will say NF because of heros which is a good idea because heros are very helpful but we did play at a time with no heros. If you like pvp then get Factions so you can do alliance battles. You cant alliance battle with NF so choose wisely.

In the End i say Factions!

Puebert · Apr 08, 2007, 06:36 PM // 18:36

^What he said.

The only reason I liked NF were:

Heroes.
New Skills.

Theres just too much sand. And I find its longer than Prophm since ther aren't many runners.

Tea Girl · Apr 08, 2007, 06:37 PM // 18:37

Factions, because it's fast and fun.

NF is too long and tedious -.-

Yichi · Apr 08, 2007, 06:46 PM // 18:46

Both have their pros and cons.

Factions = better skill balance, better looking armors imo, if youre a casual player its a little shorter if you dont have the time, more pvp options with aliance battles, better elite areas

Nightfall = heros (love these guys), longer storyline, better storyline, inscribable armors and weapons, better scenery (no ghetto), more pve focused

Sk8tborderx · Apr 08, 2007, 06:57 PM // 18:57

Factions, its the only chapter you can play a rit.

Lydz · Apr 08, 2007, 07:06 PM // 19:06

Nightfall. There's no use to playing PvE if you find it too long and tedious. The objective isn't to finish the game, it's to have fun doing so

AydenV2 · Apr 08, 2007, 07:48 PM // 19:48

I prefer factions MUCH more. I like the asian setting and Alliance Battles are fun.

pctech65 · Apr 08, 2007, 08:01 PM // 20:01

If you plan to play a necro then ya might wanna get Nightfall so you have access to the one(although lame) e-management skill.

Akshara · Apr 08, 2007, 08:28 PM // 20:28

That's a tough call.

Factions offers faster levelling, quicker gold gain, more affordable armor options, the Ritualist and Assassin professions, faster paced PvE, a lot of PvP gamestyles, plus better music.

Nightfall offers Heroes, a richer PvE storyline, better cinematics, inscribable items and armor, and the Dervish and Paragon professions.

Having played through all three, I find myself enjoying Factions the most these days. However, that is with heroes... I don't think I'd feel the same way if I were dependent upon pick up groups or henchmen. In Factions, a lot of the higher level PvE areas can be fairly empty; but if one is in a helpful guild, that isn't such a big issue. Before heroes, I remember having to wait several days or more to find a group for certain missions.

Nightfall is great; yet having completed it with one character, it just doesn't draw me into playing through the missions and quest areas much with my other characters. The only reason I do is to unlock heroes. And one has to play through a considerable part of Nightfall to unlock the cooler heroes.

If storyline consistency is an issue, play through Factions first and then Nightfall. If it's not, I'd recommend playing Nightfall first, and then after the game is complete and all heroes are unlocked, like General Morgahn and Razah the Ritualist, then play Factions. The PvE will be more fun with all the heroes unlocked, and you can move into the more interesting PvP from there.

Edit: It's kind of interesting how the Ritualist hero Razah is unlocked after one completes the Nightfall campaign. It makes one wonder, "well what do I use him for, since the game is over now?" I think it's to encourage those who haven't played Factions to pick it up, since all of Razah's good skills are unlocked in Factions. Plus one doesn't get to unlock Zenmai the Assassin without Factions. Fwiw, it's pretty cool to play through Factions with a Rit and Assassin hero along. And the storyline consistency issue isn't really that big of a deal with regards to Nightfall and Factions, ie. they could plausibly be played out of order and things still make sense. It's more of an issue with Nightfall and Prophecies, regarding the five Gods and Abaddon.

Hikan Trilear · Apr 08, 2007, 08:50 PM // 20:50

I had the most fun with NF out of any of the campaigns. Probably because (unlike the other campaigns) I got it as soon as it was released, and everybody else was just starting at the same time as me. I liked the story in NF the most because it stays focused around one central enemy instead of having you switch enemies 5 different times throughout the course of the game, and most of the missions were genuinely fun (except poghan passage but they fixed that later). I also like how NF gave you alot of backstory on the events of prophecies and factions (mostly in sidequests though).

Really it's just a preference thing, generally though Factions for PvP and NF for PvE.

Corinthian · Apr 08, 2007, 09:19 PM // 21:19

Let's see...

Factions - pros:

-Spoil Victor
-Rit is kind of cool

cons:

-Exploding monsters
-AB's full of leavers
-Tons of new useless skills to use
-Restricted access to Elite missions
-Abandoned outposts and missions

Nightfall - pros:

-Fun
-Steadily increasing difficulty
-Good storyline
-Heroes
-Searing Flames
-Dervishes!!!!!!
-Unlocked treasure chests!!!

cons:

-Insanely difficult high-end PvE (requires real people and teamwork)
-Ummm...

Gimme Money Plzkthx · Apr 08, 2007, 09:25 PM // 21:25

Nightfall .

Amraliane · Apr 11, 2007, 09:48 AM // 09:48

Nightfall for the win.

-Loki- · Apr 11, 2007, 10:11 AM // 10:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corinthian

cons:

-Insanely difficult high-end PvE (requires real people and teamwork)
-Ummm...

Horribly long, drawn out and tedious.
Sunspear point grind.
Horrible slow levelling, though not as bad as prophecies.

Apr 08, 2007, 06:30 PM // 18:30	#1
Ademist Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Apr 2007	Factions Vs. Nightfall I'm sort of in a dillema where I cannot choose between Factions and Nightfall. I wanted to know your opinions on which I should buy. Of course I will be buying both eventually, I just need the most neccassary one for now. (I do have Prophecies.) Post your opinions.

Apr 08, 2007, 08:28 PM // 20:28	#15
Akshara Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005	That's a tough call. Factions offers faster levelling, quicker gold gain, more affordable armor options, the Ritualist and Assassin professions, faster paced PvE, a lot of PvP gamestyles, plus better music. Nightfall offers Heroes, a richer PvE storyline, better cinematics, inscribable items and armor, and the Dervish and Paragon professions. Having played through all three, I find myself enjoying Factions the most these days. However, that is with heroes... I don't think I'd feel the same way if I were dependent upon pick up groups or henchmen. In Factions, a lot of the higher level PvE areas can be fairly empty; but if one is in a helpful guild, that isn't such a big issue. Before heroes, I remember having to wait several days or more to find a group for certain missions. Nightfall is great; yet having completed it with one character, it just doesn't draw me into playing through the missions and quest areas much with my other characters. The only reason I do is to unlock heroes. And one has to play through a considerable part of Nightfall to unlock the cooler heroes. If storyline consistency is an issue, play through Factions first and then Nightfall. If it's not, I'd recommend playing Nightfall first, and then after the game is complete and all heroes are unlocked, like General Morgahn and Razah the Ritualist, then play Factions. The PvE will be more fun with all the heroes unlocked, and you can move into the more interesting PvP from there. Edit: It's kind of interesting how the Ritualist hero Razah is unlocked after one completes the Nightfall campaign. It makes one wonder, "well what do I use him for, since the game is over now?" I think it's to encourage those who haven't played Factions to pick it up, since all of Razah's good skills are unlocked in Factions. Plus one doesn't get to unlock Zenmai the Assassin without Factions. Fwiw, it's pretty cool to play through Factions with a Rit and Assassin hero along. And the storyline consistency issue isn't really that big of a deal with regards to Nightfall and Factions, ie. they could plausibly be played out of order and things still make sense. It's more of an issue with Nightfall and Prophecies, regarding the five Gods and Abaddon. Last edited by Akshara; Apr 08, 2007 at 08:54 PM // 20:54..

Apr 08, 2007, 06:31 PM // 18:31	#2
warpedheat101 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Oct 2006 Guild: Knights In The Garage [BEEP] Profession: Mo/A	what do you like more pvp or pve? nightfall is more pve while factions is more pvp...........i prefer nightfall but have been going back to factions a bit

Apr 08, 2007, 06:31 PM // 18:31	#3
Zinger314 Debbie Downer Join Date: May 2006 Profession: N/Me	Nightfall. That's nearly objective. One reason; HEROES.

Apr 08, 2007, 06:32 PM // 18:32	#4
greendc27 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Wisconsin Guild: Gaming Continuum [GCon] Profession: R/Mo	Get Nightfall. People can argue about which is the better game (I prefer Nightfall) but its the only game you can get heroes from. They help a lot since some of the missions have hardly any people in them no matter which game you're playing.

Apr 08, 2007, 06:32 PM // 18:32	#5
lyra_song Hell's Protector Join Date: Oct 2005 Profession: R/Mo	Nightfall. Heroes make your life much more fun.

Apr 08, 2007, 06:33 PM // 18:33	#6
Brianna Insane & Inhumane Join Date: Feb 2006	I'd have to say.. the most important one you'd want to buy is Nightfall since it has more features to take advantage of, IE: Heros, inscribable armors, and some pretty nice skills etc.. Factions does have nice armor and some pretty good skills, but I guess it's not all that important. Now if it was me who had to choose from one of them I'd pick factions, because i really despise nightfall.

Apr 08, 2007, 06:34 PM // 18:34	#7
MMSDome Raged Out Join Date: Sep 2005	I prefer Factions because I think its a better all around game. Love the environment and everything about it ever since we got to do tha beta thing. Just love Factions but thats me. Most people will say NF because of heros which is a good idea because heros are very helpful but we did play at a time with no heros. If you like pvp then get Factions so you can do alliance battles. You cant alliance battle with NF so choose wisely. In the End i say Factions!

Apr 08, 2007, 06:36 PM // 18:36	#8
Puebert Desert Nomad Join Date: Oct 2005 Profession: Mo/	^What he said. The only reason I liked NF were: Heroes. New Skills. Theres just too much sand. And I find its longer than Prophm since ther aren't many runners.

Apr 08, 2007, 06:37 PM // 18:37	#9
Tea Girl Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Profession: Mo/Me	Factions, because it's fast and fun. NF is too long and tedious -.-

Apr 08, 2007, 06:46 PM // 18:46	#10
Yichi Furnace Stoker Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match... Guild: Dark Alley [dR]	Both have their pros and cons. Factions = better skill balance, better looking armors imo, if youre a casual player its a little shorter if you dont have the time, more pvp options with aliance battles, better elite areas Nightfall = heros (love these guys), longer storyline, better storyline, inscribable armors and weapons, better scenery (no ghetto), more pve focused

Apr 08, 2007, 06:57 PM // 18:57	#11
Sk8tborderx Jungle Guide Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: PA Guild: Us Are Not [leet] Profession: W/	Factions, its the only chapter you can play a rit.

Apr 08, 2007, 07:06 PM // 19:06	#12
Lydz Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cape Town, South Africa Guild: The Crazy Dragons [TCD] Profession: E/Mo	Nightfall. There's no use to playing PvE if you find it too long and tedious. The objective isn't to finish the game, it's to have fun doing so

Apr 08, 2007, 07:48 PM // 19:48	#13
AydenV2 Academy Page Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California Guild: [TCD] Profession: Mo/Me	I prefer factions MUCH more. I like the asian setting and Alliance Battles are fun.

Apr 08, 2007, 08:01 PM // 20:01	#14
pctech65 Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: The Lords of Doom Profession: W/Mo	If you plan to play a necro then ya might wanna get Nightfall so you have access to the one(although lame) e-management skill.

Apr 08, 2007, 08:50 PM // 20:50	#16
Hikan Trilear Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2007	I had the most fun with NF out of any of the campaigns. Probably because (unlike the other campaigns) I got it as soon as it was released, and everybody else was just starting at the same time as me. I liked the story in NF the most because it stays focused around one central enemy instead of having you switch enemies 5 different times throughout the course of the game, and most of the missions were genuinely fun (except poghan passage but they fixed that later). I also like how NF gave you alot of backstory on the events of prophecies and factions (mostly in sidequests though). Really it's just a preference thing, generally though Factions for PvP and NF for PvE.

Apr 08, 2007, 09:19 PM // 21:19	#17
Corinthian Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2005	Let's see... Factions - pros: -Spoil Victor -Rit is kind of cool cons: -Exploding monsters -AB's full of leavers -Tons of new useless skills to use -Restricted access to Elite missions -Abandoned outposts and missions Nightfall - pros: -Fun -Steadily increasing difficulty -Good storyline -Heroes -Searing Flames -Dervishes!!!!!! -Unlocked treasure chests!!! cons: -Insanely difficult high-end PvE (requires real people and teamwork) -Ummm...

Apr 08, 2007, 09:25 PM // 21:25	#18
Gimme Money Plzkthx Jungle Guide Join Date: Jul 2006	Nightfall .

Apr 11, 2007, 09:48 AM // 09:48	#19
Amraliane Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Apr 2007 Guild: House Amraliane Profession: D/Mo	Nightfall for the win.